2017 Jaguar XE is the 3 Series we've missed

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Manxxy

Discussion Starter · Jun 2, 2015

Car and Driver reporting here. The XE isn't a luxury car, its just a luxurious car with tons of SPORT...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a25805/2017-jaguar-xe-road-test/

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I am positively thrilled by these comparisons to classic BMW. As someone who has been tremendously disappointed by BMW's disconnected cars in recent years, these reviews are a breath of fresh air.

I was saddened after a recent drive of a brand new BMW 435i M Performance. What should have been a cracking car was instead fitted with totally numb steering, responded with delayed inputs, and did not at all impart a nimble feeling. I turned off the engine resigned that BMW had lost the plot.

That Jaguar may now carry the mantle of luxury-oriented driver's cars is so exciting and makes me even more anxious to drive an XE.

I witnessed Mercedes fall from grace in the late 90s. Then BMW fall from grace in the late 00s. IMO Audi is currently on top, but maybe it's now Jaguar's turn?

We live in interesting times, with respect to cars.

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Winger

· #3 · Jun 2, 2015

I think that Mercedes and BMW have lost their way a bit. It seems strange to me that they have so many different models. It's hard to know BMW when they make so many things. Jaguar seems more deliberate in its models, and there is an air around them that they are on the rise again imo.

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john

· #4 · Jun 2, 2015

deluXE said:
I am positively thrilled by these comparisons to classic BMW. As someone who has been tremendously disappointed by BMW's disconnected cars in recent years, these reviews are a breath of fresh air.

I was saddened after a recent drive of a brand new BMW 435i M Performance. What should have been a cracking car was instead fitted with totally numb steering, responded with delayed inputs, and did not at all impart a nimble feeling. I turned off the engine resigned that BMW had lost the plot.

That Jaguar may now carry the mantle of luxury-oriented driver's cars is so exciting and makes me even more anxious to drive an XE.

I witnessed Mercedes fall from grace in the late 90s. Then BMW fall from grace in the late 00s. IMO Audi is currently on top, but maybe it's now Jaguar's turn?

We live in interesting times, with respect to cars.

While they do thin out their products and have moved into targeting as many segments as possible, they've done well with keeping their core models.

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deluXE

· #5 · Jun 3, 2015

john said:
While they do thin out their products and have moved into targeting as many segments as possible, they've done well with keeping their core models.

Drive a 435i, then compare the driving experience with an E46 330ci, and to me there is no comparison. They haven't maintained their core models to the standards of excellence that they used to. And that complacence leaves an opening for the Jaguar XE.

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Winger

· #6 · Jun 3, 2015

I think that the brand is better protected by having fewer models that are all really good instead of more models where even a few aren't really that great. I realize that makes for less risk, so perhaps a middle ground is best. These Gran Coupe models for example, I think are pretty weird. And the X4 and GLE both look strange to me. All are niche vehicles.

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Manxxy

Discussion Starter · #7 · Jun 3, 2015

deluXE said:
Drive a 435i, then compare the driving experience with an E46 330ci, and to me there is no comparison. They haven't maintained their core models to the standards of excellence that they used to. And that complacence leaves an opening for the Jaguar XE.

Agreed, no need to even go back that far. Comparing a last gen 335i to the current 435i shows the drastic shift condensed into a few short years IMO...

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Kingpin

· #8 · Jun 3, 2015

Winger said:
I think that the brand is better protected by having fewer models that are all really good instead of more models where even a few aren't really that great. I realize that makes for less risk, so perhaps a middle ground is best. These Gran Coupe models for example, I think are pretty weird. And the X4 and GLE both look strange to me. All are niche vehicles.

Well see how that goes a couple years down the road when we have sales numbers that really show what to expect for future year models.

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deluXE

· #9 · Jun 4, 2015

Manxxy said:
Agreed, no need to even go back that far. Comparing a last gen 335i to the current 435i shows the drastic shift condensed into a few short years IMO...

True. The E90 (last gen) was the last 3-series with hydraulic steering.

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