[BJM]

Turns out the new keyless ignition in LR's has been a gold mine for thieves...

Range Rover models have apparently been targeted due to their keyless ignition systems, which thieves have managed to bypass using a handheld device that can be easily bought over the internet.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-r...sed-insurance-due-to-theft-risk#ixzz3HSjJFhKg

 

[Winger]

Say what?!

What is this device being bought over the internet?

And also its crazy that insurers are refusing to insure Range Rovers. Range Rover better fix the problem or start giving refunds if people can't get insurance on their new car.

 

[blueblood]

I think the device that allows people to do this is an EMP Generator, one which you can make easily.

What can be learned from this is that you shut off remote access to your vehicle if you're really concerned, that way, you eliminate your problem

 

[Winger]

I'm just surprised that JLR would make a vehicle that is so easily stolen. It seems like a pretty big mistake to make. They better fix it fast because I could see it affecting sales especially with the insurance thing happening.

 

[BJM]

In all fairness they didnt make the vehicle easier to steal, thieves simply figured out an easy way to steal them... (if you can see the difference)

 

[blueblood]

It's not just a JLR problem but an industry wide problem, reports on this happening to a wide range of vehicle have been going around.

 

[Winger]

So are they going to fix the problem though. This seems like a serious enough problem to recall the vehicles to get them fixed.

 

[Kink]

@blueblood, correct its not just an issue with JLG vehicles...

Figures reported by The Guardian newspaper reveal that almost 300 Range Rover Evoques and Range Rover Sports were stolen between January and July of this year, as well as 63 BMW X5 and 3-series models.

Thieves are understood to be targeting these vehicles both because of their popularity in Europe and because of their keyless ignition systems, which can be ‘hacked’ by using a re-programmed key to gain access to the car.

Whats interesting is the article points to demand from eastern europe as fuelling the spree, which if you ask me seems slightly spurious.

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/high-value-cars-targeted-new-wave-car-crime

 

[blueblood]

So are they going to fix the problem though. This seems like a serious enough problem to recall the vehicles to get them fixed.

I'm not sure exactly what the method is for getting into these vehicles. An EMP attack on the system is a possibility but there's more investigation needed to confirm that, but it is a sure fire way to get into a vehicle.

For the fix, i'm not sure what they can do. It would be great if there is something they can add to the system to make it _____-proof

 

[ATS2XES]

I haven't had an ignition key in my last 3 cars.
With Insurance companies refusing to insure or putting restrictions on their vehicles I am sure it will force them to find a fix for the problem.

 

[Manxxy]

you know at this point a lock and key might be the safest bet yet..

 

[blueblood]

It doesn't seem to be that hard of an issue to deal with, even if it's temporary action that needs to be taken before something permanent comes along. For all we know some permanent fix could be in the works right now.

 

[Winger]

I sure hope so. Knowing about this keyless ignition issue makes me want to just avoid them altogether. Is it really that hard to pull out a key and unlock the door/ start the engine anyway?

 

[Kingpin]

I sure hope so. Knowing about this keyless ignition issue makes me want to just avoid them altogether. Is it really that hard to pull out a key and unlock the door/ start the engine anyway?

no but it's a luxury and something that fits in to the whole premium vehicle thing.

 

[ATS2XES]

I like not having to get my keys or remote out to get into a car, start it and drive off.
Does the XE have passive unlock/locking? where the car senses the remote and allows you to open the doors, trunk without a key or remotely unlocking.

 

[blueblood]

I also like not having to worry about my key lock cylinder giving up after years of use. Had a mid 90's lexus of mine that needed the lock cylinder changed after time time, soon after all went.

BUT of course that is with a really old vehicle, still something to think about in the long term

 

[john]

I like not having to get my keys or remote out to get into a car, start it and drive off.
Does the XE have passive unlock/locking? where the car senses the remote and allows you to open the doors, trunk without a key or remotely unlocking.

hopefully they don't start thinking like ford and make us start kicking out cars to unlock them

 

[Winger]

I guess I have no problem with it as long as its actually secure and isn't putting me at a greater risk of having my car stolen.